Adults telling kids who they are, and kids wondering — are they right?
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Note: The internet version of this episode contains un-beeped curse words. BEEPED VERSION.
Prologue
Prologue
Host Ira talks with comedian Gary Gulman about his transformation from high school nobody to football star. (8 minutes)
Act One
Jersey? Sure.
Gary puts on a tough guy costume, but will it turn him into a tough guy? Ira continues Gary Gulman’s story. (17 minutes)
Act Two
Grownups Know Things
Eleanor Gordon-Smith tells the story of a woman who wants to know why she was taken away from her mom as a kid. A version of this story is in Eleanor’s book Stop Being Reasonable: How We Really Change Our Minds. (30 minutes)