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February 21, 2025

Ten Things I Don't Want To Hate About You

Zach Mack and his dad try to mend a rift between them in a very unusual way. 

Illustration of a man whose face is obscured behind an iPad displaying an image of someone wearing a gas mask

Owen Freeman

Note: The internet version of this episode contains un-beeped curse words. BEEPED VERSION.

Part Two

Part Two

Zach’s mother and sister weigh in on the agreement. (28 minutes)

Part Three

Part Three

With the year coming to an end, someone is going to have to say, “You were right, and I was wrong.” Will it change anything? (16 minutes)

This story is a collaboration with NPR's Embedded podcast, which released a three-part series about Zach and his father.